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1337 8th October 2010 04:14 AM

Laptop Background

Whatcha guys (and girls respectively) Think?

HatCat 8th October 2010 05:08 AM

Very laid out. :D Bright colors are good imo.
Not to do with your choice but hard for me to make the text out due to the screen shot size.

I'm so stubborn I have nothing on my desktop except the Windows taskbar and a black solid bg.

I used to have one like that, except the "PJ64" 3-D logo was GIF rainbow-flashing animated (God I need to stop doing that.) or the "Super Mario 64" blue tiling you see in the background behind Mario's head in the N64 version press START screen.

1337 8th October 2010 06:44 AM

Any idea how to "blowup" the image without blurring it too much?

zilmar 8th October 2010 07:33 AM

you can use a better image source, try

1337 8th October 2010 02:27 PM

Definitely liked that one.....thanks zilmar :D

Now what you think rswedlow?

squall_leonhart 8th October 2010 03:13 PM

i think you should stop saving images as jpg.

HatCat 8th October 2010 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by zilmar (Post 15884)
you can use a better image source, try



Originally Posted by D41145H4CK (Post 15887)

Definitely liked that one.....thanks zilmar :D

Now what you think rswedlow?

Move some of the desktop icons out of the way of the art, and it's glow-in-the-dark. :D Late at night I like contrasting colors, so the background color fits in.

I would decrement the original dimensions of the logo to 512x512 so that the dimensions would be more scalable to smaller icon resolutions. That would help the center-alignment coordinates on your screen, and the crust around the PJ64 logo can be fixed either using the PNG version or rendering all alpha-transparency pixels to background color in the JPEG version.


Originally Posted by Squall_Leonhart (Post 15892)
i think you should stop saving images as jpg.

omg psychic...I'm still religiously against JPEG formats, but for large images I use it when there is much anti-aliasing and large palette of colors.

GIF is older though, so it has more browser compatibility than JPEG and optimizes smaller color palettes better.

squall_leonhart 8th October 2010 06:19 PM

png is good for limited colour ranges.

HatCat 8th October 2010 07:11 PM

PNG always has stronger compression capabilities. There are a few fundamental exceptions where GIF is [significantly] smaller in size than PNG, like single-pixel blocks or basic resource textures. Although local loading times for PNG renders may be slower than GIF, if the compression is heavy, smaller file size seems to compromise this disadvantage for online images where browsers support it.

There actually is a version of JPEG where encoding is lossless, but it's a custom format used by Jasc image software. (Photoshop doesn't support nearly as many formats and storage techniques. :P) Not to mention it's more similar to Windows bitmap renders than PNG compression.

1337 9th October 2010 03:12 AM

Got this with

HatCat 9th October 2010 03:15 AM

If you like those kinds of filters I've got more where that came from. ;) Well, that came from different source, similar collection, but I have a larger collection.

1337 12th October 2010 02:08 AM

How about this one?

HatCat 12th October 2010 02:59 AM

Oh yes, certainly I can tell the neon effect radiates more awesomely with the desktop shortcuts moved to the border. I really like the high-contrast neon stuff for night hours; I'm thinking about trying that background out for when I start using wallpaper again heh.

1337 12th October 2010 03:04 AM

Here you go if you want it.....tee hee hee

HatCat 12th October 2010 03:38 AM

Oh yeah man got to have that neon. Thanks for looking out for me. :D

1337 12th October 2010 03:43 AM


what photo editor do you use? here.....

dsx_ 12th October 2010 07:59 AM

any lossless format is awesome

HatCat 12th October 2010 07:28 PM

Pretty much everything except Photoshop. When I was like, 13, and in school about picture design I used to retain the interest of layer and blending effects to produce complex artwork, but the closest thing I've ever done to that as of more recent years is Flash Professional image export.

I think the best software to describe what I do is ArtIcons Pro. Most of the time I use color channel algebra, pixel geometry, and pixel group shifting to construct or rearrange, in the case of existing canvas-relative alignment or other imperfections, my own pixel maps, rather than relying on drawing applications to create effects for me. I've also used the ROM hacking tool N64GFX, which converts N64 16- or 32-bit bitmaps to PNG or vice versa, so sometimes I create PNG images using hexadecimal or N64 textures using PNG. :/

I have Paint.NET, too. I've needed something like that for changing degrees of PNG compression and unique RGBA resizing algorithms. I needed it for the new image format that Jabo's retexturing plugin uses. However Squall should keep in mind that file size is not automatically an indicator of superior bitmap optimization except with download times. :P

For palette editing and counting colors, I use Jasc Paint Shop Pro. It's the closest thing to Photoshop that I have but with a much better list of file formats and formatting techniques to choose from than Photoshop has ever had. Photoshop is great for click-and-pick artists but creates several illusions of perfection.

If I could get GIMP easily I'd have that as well; I noticed it has a slider scale for specific degrees of PNG compression. I don't know much about it, but I hear it's a great alternative to both Jasc and Adobe image software.

HatCat 12th October 2010 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by dsxchallengernew (Post 16038)
any lossless format is awesome

Seems jahra!n's design of the new logo is a perfect example of what I mean about Photoshop.

JPEG formatting didn't do most of the damage there.
Taking the original PNG resource linked by zilmar, force the alpha channel to 255:255 for every pixel, then it looks like this.

I don't know what the hell happened at the top-right, but it wasn't JPEG. However, the solidity instead of blending everywhere else indicates correct anti-aliasing. The jaggedness of the same color after forcing opacity to full indicates that PS did the AA correctly in those places. The top edge of the 'P', though, is a counterexample.

I liked this version better. :P
Most incorrect AA is set to black pixels, so just merge the background with black. The canvas dimensions and pixels alignment are fixed, too.

1337 13th October 2010 05:43 PM

Totally not related...but.......
2 Attachment(s)
Seems like Test 1 wants to display like Test 2..........

any ideas why this might be happening?

HatCat 13th October 2010 07:12 PM

If you open it with Paint.NET do you get the same result?

1337 13th October 2010 07:18 PM

Nope.....It displays as the picture looks in test 1

HatCat 13th October 2010 11:32 PM

background_render = test1
fax_viewer_render = test1
background_render = fax_viewer_render = test1 //Transitive Property of Equality

If you use the fax viewer thing for Windows (that you used to see that screwed up distortion of the image) on another image, is that display also messed up?

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