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ZeldaFanatic 16th July 2009 04:13 PM

Is it Legual
 
Im pretty sure this is legual......Is that true?

Truth Unknown 17th July 2009 01:51 AM

Depends on what exactly.

Emulation Software and ROM Data Dumping Software/Hardware is legal in most places.

The mess is the legality of the copyrighted ROM data that was dumped. There is a good number of laws that can cover this topic, and its confusing. But one thing is clear, the sharing of copyrighted properties without the consent of the owner is illegal. This means via Web-sites, Web-storage (rapidshare, megaupload, etc), Peer to peer transfers (Limewire, Frostwire, Torrent Protocol, etc) and any other way to share data between people. Its illegal.

magmarock64 17th July 2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeldaFanatic (Post 9131)
Im pretty sure this is legual......Is that true?

Why do you care? You won't get in trouble and theses games are 12 years old and discontinued so it's not really stealing.

Truth Unknown 18th July 2009 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by magmarock64 (Post 9148)
Why do you care? You won't get in trouble and theses games are 12 years old and discontinued so it's not really stealing.

Old or not, its still stealing.

magmarock64 18th July 2009 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Truth Unknown (Post 9151)
Old or not, its still stealing.

The key word here is "discontinued" meaning that the game is no longer available for Eg GoldenEye, when you download GoldenEye who exactly are you stealing it from? The ownership of GoldenEye is divided amongst multiple companies.


Don't believe the lies of those bloody commercials that say internet piracy is equal to mugging someone or breaking onto there house. It's not even close, I think if the people who make these ads knew what they where talking about they'd tell the industry to get stuffed :mad:

CA5 18th July 2009 11:30 AM

Theft removes original. Like, I got my pen nicked, I don't have it anymore. Piracy doesn't (in general) - whoever the companies are, they still have the games somewhere.

ZeldaFanatic 18th July 2009 10:29 PM

Well, if I got games that I do not own from here:

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Is it legual?

HatCat 19th July 2009 02:51 AM

If you remove the link in your post then to an extent.

Truth Unknown 20th July 2009 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by magmarock64 (Post 9153)
The key word here is "discontinued" meaning that the game is no longer available for Eg GoldenEye, when you download GoldenEye who exactly are you stealing it from? The ownership of GoldenEye is divided amongst multiple companies.


Don't believe the lies of those bloody commercials that say internet piracy is equal to mugging someone or breaking onto there house. It's not even close, I think if the people who make these ads knew what they where talking about they'd tell the industry to get stuffed :mad:

"Out of print!" not discontinued, its not a service but a product. Just because they do not make anymore copies of the game, it does not mean you are authorized to take copies.

I didn't even compare this to violence, just theft. Just because you didn't beat down a person to get a copy of ROM data, its still stealing. You are just ignoring the fact its wrong.

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Originally Posted by xcdjy (Post 9156)
Theft removes original. Like, I got my pen nicked, I don't have it anymore. Piracy doesn't (in general) - whoever the companies are, they still have the games somewhere.

Someone takes your paid for DVD video and copies it, and the gives it back like its nothing. Now tell me that didn't seem wrong, not one bit, your hard earned money means nothing if you just let others just take a copy.

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Just to put the topic to rest, taking a copy of a game without the owners consent (either by trade or permission) is wrong and illegal. There is no other way around it, even if you don't like it. There are many used and even a few new copies which are still around for the Nintendo 64. Plus, ROM Dumpers are legal, if not CD burners/recorders, cameras, audio recorders, etc shouldn't be on sale in a public store.

I know its wrong and illegal, and I have done it. But, I'm not excusing myself, nor I'm not going to do anything more about it. I just can't sit here seeing everyone else think nothing of it.

squall_leonhart 20th July 2009 07:21 AM

seems fine to me. Entertainment should be free for all, the industry has held monopoly on it far too long.


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