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Old 19th February 2009, 04:06 AM
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I PERSONALLY like the way it works currently, I find installers to be annoying because they often break and quit working as newer and newer operating systems get released, plus it seems somewhat dumb to have a full-blown installer for a program that is about 2 MB in size. As for save location, if you guys wanted to get really complex you could have it save to the directory of the exe like it does now, but also give the user the option to set up their own destination folder as well.

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Old 23rd February 2009, 05:43 AM
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It already does.
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Old 1st March 2009, 07:27 PM
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Meh.

I like the way the save system currently works.


Keep up the good work guys!
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Old 5th March 2009, 09:51 PM
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It already does.
And I like it that way
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Old 15th March 2009, 06:39 PM
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NO!!!!!! No more installers!!!! No no no.

Windows sucks too much already. When I, as a windows user,
hear the word installer I imeddiatelly associate it with some
freaking application writting stuff on the register. Stuff that
requires you to use an uninstaller to remove the application
simply because it wrote stuff there and, the worse part, is
not done properly and many times there is still garbage left
there.

Just keep the saving system as it is. In fact, keep everything
as it is. No installers. Simply decompress the software on a
folder and that is it. Wanna remove it? Delete the folder. Simply
as that. PERFECT as that.

If you really, really, really wanna bother yourself with multi-
user issues, I suggest you simply create a folder, inside the
predefined save folder with the name of the current logged
user. And that is it. Simply as that. Don't waste your time
with trival issues. In fact, don't waste your time even doing
that. No one is giving you guys any money for you hard work,
except for a few gentle souls out there that might have
donated a few bucks.

If someone is worried about muiltiuser issues, let them create
separated folders and copy the emulator on each one of these
folders. Let they have the "Little John PJ64", "Susie PJ64" and
"Smith PJ64". The emulator's size is not on the GB range.And
we are not on the 486 era anymore. I'm sorry if some users
still have their disk quotas given to them in floppy disks, but
we are currently on the terabyte HDD era. Deal with it!

PS: thanks for the great work you've been doing on this emulator!

PS2: I don't know how many people have downloaded PJ64 since
its initial release. Lets just keep it low and imagine 1.000.000.
Now imagine if each one of those had paid one single dollar...
Do the math! Life ain't fair, isn't it?
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Old 15th March 2009, 08:05 PM
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One issue with the simplicity is this emulator's unique design so far for suitability to beginners and those not familiar, so an installer saves the work of manual configurations like shortcut creation. Some people don't even know how to extract archived contents.

But that's only on a professional scale to have an installer, right? Otherwise...
Isn't it rather coincidental that such lost to that extent probably pirated their copy?
Why should an emulator be professional? Unless made by the hardware manufacturer

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Old 19th March 2009, 02:41 AM
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Default RE: Where should saves go?

It's my opinion that if you guys are going to use the no installer model, where installers are not needed, just having the files all in their own directory tree is a good idea. If you're going to use an installer, have the installer give you the option of installing to a directory that the user specifies (which i think it might now) and then use the tree after that. Since both Vista and Win7 are going to use the more secure multiple user model (which in my opinion is good, and also lends you guys to develop on limited permissions model, which is better when coding for other OS's as well) then have it install to somewhere like a flash drive or a user folder and not the program files folder. Also, stick all the related DLL's (or libraries for other OS's) with the project 64 files. That way it's all together, and easy to move. This software tends to be used by techies, so making it easy for techies is a good idea.

Just my two cents...
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One issue with the simplicity is this emulator's unique design so far for suitability to beginners and those not familiar, so an installer saves the work of manual configurations like shortcut creation. Some people don't even know how to extract archived contents.

But that's only on a professional scale to have an installer, right? Otherwise...
Isn't it rather coincidental that such lost to that extent probably pirated their copy?
Why should an emulator be professional? Unless made by the hardware manufacturer


I wonder how long that saying has gone around anyway. "Who said life was fair?" Bah, crazy suicidalists
They shouldn't be allowed to use a computer then.
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Make it go in the user's folder by default, but definitely allow us to change this in preferences. I plan to run Project64 in wine and do not want scattered files.
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Old 13th April 2009, 09:43 PM
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As far as saves go, it doesn't make much of a difference to me at all. I prefer the saves stay in the folder the game is located in, instead of going God knows where. It's my experience that using the search feature on Windows is often faster than trying to find the location where a game saves a file. (The "My Games" folder on my computer only has 2 folders in in despite the fact I have many more games than this.) On the other hand, as long as the game takes care of that for me, it doesn't make a difference anyways.
As far as portability is concerned, I prefer programs that do not write stuff to the registry, and as of late I have been using those types of programs with increasing frequency. That being said, that's because it makes it easier to delete said program with nothing left over should a better program come along/that program turns out to be crap, which I know isn't the case with PJ64.
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