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Old 19th May 2009, 03:01 AM
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Quite LOL, how this topic when offtopic :P
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Mind my French please...I mean to share my research on the Sicilian strategy.

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lol it got offtopic when rswedlow started talkling bbout chess
Nah check back to page one. This is my garage now LOL!

So without further ado, as you guys can see I'm a lonely guy...I have no one to teach. I take no offense if my information in this thread results in moderation (or a ban) in application to me just to clarify. I mean I'm not going to get x banned for posting all this until Oblivion happens, so you folks can cross that off my list of intentions.

Today I looked at the O'Kelly variation 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 a6.

First understand the following.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 {
2...d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Bb5+ Nc6 6.Nxc6 bxc6 7.Bxc6+ +- {If 4.Bb5+ then 4...Nc6. Thus 5.Bb5+ calls exchange of bishops leading to maybe 5...Bd7 6.Bxd7+ Nbxd7 7.Nc3 Nc5 8.f3 e5 9.Nf5 g6 10.Ng3 +-}
2...e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Bb4 6.e5 +- {Jchess lost after a counterplay Queen trap in the game after playing 6...Qc7.}
2...Nc6 3.Bb5 {But little known is my finding of 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Qb6!, which has good statistics for Black but very few games compared to the orthodox 4...Nf6 continuation.}}

2...a6 3.c4? {3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e5 5.Nf5? d5 -+} e6 4.Nc3 Qc7 does not prove victorious to White. Although this is documented in some OTB theory and also adopted by Virtual Chess, Black cannot be destroyed. The rival to Virtual Chess' powers, JESTER 1.10e, considered at preliminary notion 3.Bc4, 3.d4 with the annotated line immediately understood but, stubborn as the guy is, persisted, and after an hour of analysis 3.Nb1-c3. In computer chess, this is one scenario in which 3...Nc6xd4 is more considered than any of the normal development sequences, and the computers seem to solve growing evidence against such lines as middle-game error after 3.Nc3. More on these experiment notes later...

None of this "disproves" the Sicilian. (Nor are they well-known opening lines.) These are simply notes to justify that, after the Sicilian, both sides must fight and face many questions.

I think the "sacrificial" concern over the French Defense however is human error to say. Most humans say that 1.e4 c6 (the Caro-Kann research project) has an advantage over this system in that the Queen's bishop is still open.
I admit the Queen's bishop "Bishop of Power" on C8 is probably the piece of the sixteen I fail to spot the most in my opening analysis. However after 1...c6, the pawn structure favors the King's bishop. 1...c6 proposes the pawn structure of love (...d5, ...Nf6, etc.), in which Black should play patiently and naturally before venturing into goals like attacking White's kingside. In these games, the B7 pawn is weak if the C8 bishop is moved. The Queen's bishop is probably kept for backing up by the Queen (maybe on C8 with the bishop moved to D7) so that it can be sacrificed for the H3 pawn of White, if White castled kingside. Normally it is best reserved for tension build on G4 to pin the F3 knight for attack, but this form of knight-and-bishop counterplay is often more feasible in the 1...e5 games. So basically, the Queen's bishop is useless, and I'm sick of seeing "master"-level games in which players play QB-KN5 in the exchange variation games of the French Defense system...and statistically being unjustified in the game result.

The French Defense not only jams the bishop to its best square for this new nature but suggest ...d5 in a better fashion. 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 is for White worse than 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 (which is more contradictory to having played 1.e4 in the first place, since White just compromised).

Forgot another game against the Xbox 360 engine.
1.e3 e5 2.Na3 d5 3.c4 c6 4.cxd5 cxd5 5.Nf3 e4 6.Ke2 exf3+ 7.Kxf3 Nf6 8.Be2 Bg4+ 9.Kg3 Bd6+ 10.f4 Ne4+ 11.Kxg4 Nf2+ 12.Kg3 Nxd1 13.Bb5+ Nc6 14.Bxc6+ bxc6 15.d3 Qg5+ 16.Kf3 Qh5+ 17.g4 Qh3+ 18.Ke2 Qg2+ 19.Kxd1 Bb4 20.Rg1 Qf3+ 21.Kc2 Qe2+ 22.Kb3 Rb8 23.Bd2 Qxd2 24.Ka4 Qxb2 25.d4 Qxa3#

1...g6 is probably a better opposition, but 1...e5 is probably the next best thing because, even in this reversed French type game, White had best not assume Black will play ...d7-d5. After 1.e3 e5 2.d4 exd4 3.exd4 Black may have compromised but is ahead in initiative...just a small tidbit.
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Old 19th May 2009, 03:09 AM
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lol you only posted one thing ont he first page and you started talking about tird on your 3rd or 4th post which is on the 2nd page so it started with you spitting out chess moves
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Old 21st May 2009, 02:48 AM
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What, does it bother you if I don't convert those to correspondence notation?

1.5254 5755 2.7163 7866 3.4244 4745 4.5445 5544 6.6125 3736 7.4152 4857 8.4536 2736 9.2534 5752 10.3452 6824
But you know, adults are stubborn...one potential accomplishment that chess has not fulfilled as well as else, is to punish decline from humanity. It's a strange concept yes? Humans playing each other, of course it doesn't happen.

Bah, algebraic, mechanical coordinate...anything's better than inaccurate "descriptive notation". Black, as the teacher and punisher of he who challenges and must move first, should adhere to square A1 as the origin. Emulating descriptive, A8 is instead the origin for Black. The two sides are not equal, or else there would be no aroused challenge in the initial game.

Actually, I think I was able to comprehend that, but in case you feel this way, I didn't kill this thread yo. Brandon was getting all personal and screaming at Zach for where to find a shrink or whatever the hell he fancies these days, and Zach, being 6 years younger, was probably the life of this thread.

If my shit is bad yo, this thread could have been closed straight after Brandon replied first. Maybe this hasn't ever been clear, but if anyone wants me to stop I have no reason to keep going right? So yeah, give the word. I'm prepared well to shun myself to confining this knowledge as I have been for years.
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Old 3rd June 2009, 11:55 PM
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There is nothing wrong with moving off topic under threads which have been resolved or are seemingly irrelevant. And besides, Chess = 99.9% pure skill, honorable from any valid point of view.
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Old 4th June 2009, 03:05 AM
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Honor me? Man that's nasty. I was gonna say shaddup for dragging this back otherwise but hm thanks for simply implying such an offer.

1.c4 g6 2.Nc3 Bg7 3.g3 Nc6 4.Bg2 d6 5.Nf3 Nf6 6.e4 Bg4 7.d3 Nd4 8.O-O h5 9.Bd2 h4 10.gxh4 Qc8 11.Qa4+ Kf8 12.Nxd4 Bh3 13.Bxh3 Qxh3 14.Be3 Rxh4 15.Bf4 Rxf4 16.Nde2 Ng4 17.Nxf4 Qxh2#

After reviewing with debug notes from VC64 it seems my mistake was giving up the knight with 11...Kf8, but at the very least my 12...Bh3 is very dangerous against anything White does on move thirteen. Otherwise my positional maneuvering stands solid. I could have dissolved the whole matter with 10...Qd7 though.

Chess can be skill, but it takes heart to play spiritually. Skill is more for machines...that have no heart. :P

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Old 4th June 2009, 11:10 AM
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Hm back to my own hope, sorry to mislead.

1.c4 g6 2.g3 Bg7 3.Bg2 Nc6 4.Nc3 d6 5.e3 Bd7 6.b3 Qc8 7.d4 a6 8.Nf3 Nf6 9.O-O O-O 10.Bb2 Rb8 11.d5 Nd8 12.a4 c5 13.Nd2 Ne8 14.f4 b5 15.axb5 axb5 16.Qc2 b4 17.Nce4 Qc7 18.Bxg7 Kxg7 19.Rfd1 Bc8 20.Nf3 Bb7 21.g4 e6 22.dxe6 Nxe6 23.f5 Nd8 24.Qd3 Qe7 25.Nxd6 Bxf3 26.Nxe8+ Rxe8 27.Bxf3 Qxe3+ 28.Qxe3 Rxe3 29.Ra8 Rxa8 30.Bxa8 Re8 31.Bd5 Kf6 32.fxg6 hxg6 33.h4 Re3 34.g5+ Kf5 35.Bg2 Ne6 36.Rd7 Kg4 37.Rxf7 Kxh4 38.Bd5 Nxg5 39.Rf6 Rxb3 40.Rxg6 Rg3+ 41.Kf1 Nf3 42.Rxg3 Kxg3 43.Ke2 Nd4+ 44.Kd2 b3 45.Kc3 Kf4 46.Bf7 Ke3 47.Be8 Ke2 48.Ba4 Kd1 49.Bxb3+ Nxb3 50.Kxb3 Kd2 51.Ka4 Kc3 52.Kb5 Kd4 53.Kb6 Kxc4 54.Kc6 Kd4 55.Kb5 c4 56.Ka4 c3 57.Kb3 Kd3 58.Ka3 c2 59.Kb2 Kd2 60.Kb3 c1=Q 61.Kb4 Qc6 62.Ka5 Kc3 =
GAH that was dumb as hell. It is now 6 PM...err I mean AM, and after wasting all that patience on a stalemated game, I still have that assignment.
Really I stood up to check over school work, which today is when the book's closed so, hm. Not for me I guess.
"stalemate: the chess god's way of punishing arrogance", dammit when's the last time I even made it to the endgame phase with a machine anyway

Yay to me though, since I'm so damned, well staying up kinda doesn't get you all excited, all that slipped out at the game drawn message was Aw crap.

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