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Old 8th February 2015, 09:34 PM
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Anyways YOUR build is actually very nice, get about 5/8's full speed with it. Are you planning on optimizing the plugin?
5/8's full speed doesn't sound right, unless you're playing a demanding game like gauntlet, F-Zero, etc. What game were you playing? Otherwise that means you have hardware that has no hope of ever running accurate emulation at full speed ;/ .

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Another suggestion for zilmar, optimizing Recompiler and Interpreter with SSE2/SSSE3/SSE 4.1/SSE 4.2/AVX and whatnot. Maybe try out OpenCL.
Rofl, i highly doubt zilmar would bother with things like AVX. Imo it's not even worth doing unless you've got a ton of free time and are dedicated to improving performance, because once you get to a certain point, it takes a lot of time and effort just to squeeze a bit more performance.

One thing zilmar could do, is implement SSE1/2 for floating point instructions. I suspect that's one of the main reasons why 1964 is faster.
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I think RPGMaster is working on SSE2 stuff in the recompiler. I'm unfamiliar with OpenCL's exact practice and purpose, but nothing beyond SSE2 is necessary for a RSP re-compiler plugin, hardly even for an interpreter when you think about the more significant means.
I agree that SSE2 is pretty much all you really need, unless you're a die hard performance nut . For interpreter, SSSE3 shuffling does make a tiny but somewhat noticeable difference though (when using a HW accelerated gfx plugin), since it doesn't require function pointers. I'm curious to see how well a super optimized 64bit recompiler would be, but I don't have enough incentive to work on that ;/ . I think it's time for me to move onto gfx, audio, or r4300i though. Still can't decide lol!
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Old 8th February 2015, 09:52 PM
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I have an ASUS K53SD DS-71 with a Quad-Core Intel i7-2670QM @ 2.2 to 3.1 GHz, 6GB of RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 610M, and I am running Project 64 on Windows 7 (64-Bit).

The games I use are The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask.
IDK if I am doing something wrong (I have around 32GB of Pagefile not sure if that's too much). Would love to run both of them full speed, but right now I'm waiting out for GLideN64.
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Old 8th February 2015, 10:09 PM
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I have an ASUS K53SD DS-71 with a Quad-Core Intel i7-2670QM @ 2.2 to 3.1 GHz, 6GB of RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 610M, and I am running Project 64 on Windows 7 (64-Bit).

The games I use are The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask.
IDK if I am doing something wrong (I have around 32GB of Pagefile not sure if that's too much). Would love to run both of them full speed, but right now I'm waiting out for GLideN64.
I forgot to consider the possibility that you enabled VI filters. I hate to say it, but your hardware will not be good enough to run your ideal emulator & plugins at full speed. 3.1 ghz is simply not enough.

Assuming you prefer filters on, you can set refresh to 2, since zelda is a 20fps game iirc. That should boost performance (even with filters off I get more VI/s), but then again I'm using integrated gfx ;/ .
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Old 8th February 2015, 10:13 PM
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though if you press START to pause it will switch to 30 fps, which will be choppy-ish unless you set skip back from 2 to 1 (or just 0)
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Old 8th February 2015, 10:19 PM
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Well, I'm not really worrying since I'm planning to get top-of-the-line gaming laptop once Windows 10 comes out. Project 64 will be compatible with Windows 10, right?
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Old 8th February 2015, 10:29 PM
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though if you press START to pause it will switch to 30 fps, which will be choppy-ish unless you set skip back from 2 to 1 (or just 0)
Good point, I forgot about the pause menu. Automatic ftw .
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Well, I'm not really worrying since I'm planning to get top-of-the-line gaming laptop once Windows 10 comes out. Project 64 will be compatible with Windows 10, right?
Ah, makes sense now. Dunno if it will support it right away, but it prolly will, eventually.
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Old 8th February 2015, 10:59 PM
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Any news or info on what you're going to add, or any info on progress?
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Old 10th February 2015, 02:37 AM
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I think I found a regression ;/ . Last Legion now boots with a black screen, if I have CF set to 3. On original PJ64 2.1, it booted fine with CF set to 3.

I suspect it's undefined behavior, since theboy181 doesn't have this problem. Can others try out Last Legion, with CF set to 3? I tried different RSP's and GFX plugins so I know the problem is the emulator core.

Edit: Wow that's really odd. So the issue appeared somwhere between http://www.emucr.com/2015/01/project...-20150124.html and http://www.emucr.com/2015/01/project...-20150125.html . Strange stuff ;/ .

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Old 11th February 2015, 12:25 AM
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boi! y u no github issues?!

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I suspect it's undefined behavior, since theboy181 doesn't have this problem. Can others try out Last Legion, with CF set to 3? I tried different RSP's and GFX plugins so I know the problem is the emulator core.
First, Y U NO GITHUB ISSUES?!

Second, How do you know he doesn't have this problem? I don't recall theboy181 commenting on a Last Legion issue.

Third, are you guys using PMs on #n64dev to troubleshoot project64 issues?
wtf did I initiate a IRC channel on Freenode for again you realize #n64dev has like nothing emulation-related on it, I only referred you to start joining it because there was no other channel I felt suitable for meeting on at the time.

You guys were both there before, so why the sudden move to EFnet?

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Old 11th February 2015, 01:00 AM
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Lol I just wanted to make sure the issue wasn't my fault. I'll go ahead and report the issue. Man it sure is tough tracking down UB.

Lol anytime I go on #project64, hardly anyone is there . I guess I'll just make a habit of being on IRC more. I messaged him via IM. I don't really go on efnet much anymore .
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